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Offline bashir1946

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Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« on: March 30, 2009, 01:47:31 am »
HI I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY CITREON XSARA 2.0 HDI AUTO

I HAD DRIVEN THE CAR AND BOUGHT IT HOME LAST NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY IT WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD, IT GOES IN REVERSE PERFECTLY BUT GOES IN 'D' AND NEVER MOVES BUT WHEN OVER REV AND THEN MOVES ABIT.

I HAVE FILLED THE OIL LEVELS BUT CANT FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM, ITS A 2002 2.0 HDI AUTO

PLEASE CAN ANY1 HELP. THANKS
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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 02:17:31 am »
Sorry, I can't access the Citroen database just now to find out if you have the same gearbox as me.

Did you touch the gearbox levels before or after it stopped moving?

What fluid did you use?

How exactly did you top it up?

Was it doing anything strange before it stopped moving - jerking - strange noises - any warning lights on the dash?
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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 03:00:06 am »
it seemed fine but next day will not move, i knw it might be strage but power steering oil was nearly empty, can that be a problem.

but now i have to over rev to get this moving but do get a burning smell

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 03:41:07 am »
Low fluid in power steering isn't good, but top it up and turn steering from lock to lock a ferw times until no more air comes up into the reservoir. That should fix that.

I can't see any connestion between that and the gearbox tho'. If you're getting a burning smell, I definitely would advise not doing anything further until you can sort out the cause of the no-go.

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 02:57:21 pm »
I would think it's the AL4 auto box. You need decent diagnostic equipment to check the gearbox oil properly & is done with the engine running. you cant just add oil it must be excact. It also doesent use normal ATF but a special oil. I dont think it would matter if you have done it wrong anyway because it sounds like the gearbox is f**ked.

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 08:03:36 pm »
If you've just bought it, surely there's some sort of comeback?  The burning smell sounds as if you shouldn't be even running the engine, as in "P" or "N" there are still bits whizzing around in the gearbox.  :o :(

If the seller left the steering fluid empty ... well - you get the picture. Nowt to do with the gearbox, but a lot to do with the vendor.

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 01:07:19 am »
I'd guess from what was said, that if that gearbox is salvageable, it'll only be after a complete strip down.

Wheeler - I was looking to get my fluid changed on the last car, just to freshen it up and potentially prolong the box's life. I was advised to see a specialist rather than a Dealer.
Finally found a FedAuto member and asked him very particularly what fluid he proposed using in my specific box.

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No guesses as to what I did. ;D

Mike - agreed on the steering fluid, but at the time , that was the least of his problems.  :(
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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 11:17:51 am »
HI I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY CITREON XSARA 2.0 HDI AUTO

I HAD DRIVEN THE CAR AND BOUGHT IT HOME LAST NIGHT AND THE NEXT DAY IT WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD, IT GOES IN REVERSE PERFECTLY BUT GOES IN 'D' AND NEVER MOVES BUT WHEN OVER REV AND THEN MOVES ABIT.

I HAVE FILLED THE OIL LEVELS BUT CANT FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM, ITS A 2002 2.0 HDI AUTO

PLEASE CAN ANY1 HELP. THANKS
Had the exact same thing happen to me sunday night, driving home approached a roundabout went across it hit the accelerator and nothing no drive at all !!!
Tried a few things and discovered that i too only had reverse so i drove 4 miles home backwards, must admit i was in stitches for most of it  the looks i was getting sooo funny.

Any way checked today still the same no error lights nothing looks to me like its gonna be terminal as i only paid a ?1000 for it and i think a replacement box will not be worth the aggro.
I did try disconnecting battery for 20 mins just to see if it cleared but no joy and after reading the above it doesnt look like fluid is low either.

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 11:48:00 am »
This is a purely uneducated guess. I suspect the problem will lie in one of two places.

Either it's in the gearbox itself, or quite possibly it the control cables to the box.

If it's the first, that's a specialist job. If it's the second, then it may well be worth going over the connectios at the lever end for anything having become disconnected under the cover, or at the gearbox end, where the cables connect to the operating levers. It looks as tho' the 2 cables "snap fit" onto the levers, and there's also a kick-down control as well.

I suggest a close examination of those points would be about the only practical thing you could do for yourself.
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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 12:16:53 pm »
This is a purely uneducated guess. I suspect the problem will lie in one of two places.

Either it's in the gearbox itself, or quite possibly it the control cables to the box.

If it's the first, that's a specialist job. If it's the second, then it may well be worth going over the connectios at the lever end for anything having become disconnected under the cover, or at the gearbox end, where the cables connect to the operating levers. It looks as tho' the 2 cables "snap fit" onto the levers, and there's also a kick-down control as well.

I suggest a close examination of those points would be about the only practical thing you could do for yourself.
Spoke to gearbox specialist he checked on computer and said it would that clutch 2 has more than likely gone  this controls 2nd 3rd and 4th clutch 1 does 1st and reverse why it wont engage 1st though i dont know.


I do have citroen workshop  manual for the AL4 gearbox if anyone wants it let me know
I am witing to find out how much it will cost  :'(

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2009, 12:32:34 pm »
Service replacement ?1600+vat = ?1840
In the words of Halfwit "I dont think so sunny Jim"

As i only paid ?1000 for it i think it is goodnight vienna

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 04:15:11 am »
changing gearbox oil, is quite ok but make sure it is recomended gearbox oil, not fix, 2nd gearbox cable, final is your valve body, ask expert for auto trans.

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Re: Xsara 2.0 HDI auto GEARBOX PROBLEM
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 01:12:16 pm »
i have a little experience of auto gearbox's but iirc the problems your talking about sounds like the oil filter clogged up inside the gearbox (im sure i will be corrected if im wrong)
most auto box's have a oil filter in side somewhere so it might be worth asking a specialist about it